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	<title>Comments on: FIPR calls on Home Office to withdraw misleading advice on Phorm</title>
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	<description>Protecting your rights in the digital age</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonah</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163782</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Problem is if D.P.I Interception is deemed legal then it is also Open House for everyone else to use!

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080513-hackers-used-packet-sniffers-to-filch-credit-card-data.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Problem is if D.P.I Interception is deemed legal then it is also Open House for everyone else to use!</p>
<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080513-hackers-used-packet-sniffers-to-filch-credit-card-data.html" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080513-hackers-used-packet-sniffers-to-filch-credit-card-data.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: VPN</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163721</link>
		<dc:creator>VPN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/rowling_privacy_ruling/

 If Private data is processed then such Data "does" become part of the D.P.A when it is published without express permission!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/rowling_privacy_ruling/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/rowling_privacy_ruling/</a></p>
<p> If Private data is processed then such Data &#8220;does&#8221; become part of the D.P.A when it is published without express permission!</p>
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		<title>By: Privacy?</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163629</link>
		<dc:creator>Privacy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Phorm &#38; FIPR this system leaks UID details when connected to a HTTPS/SSL Website, this enables any unscrupulous Website owner to gather the UID &#38; depending on the Website setup, link it to an individual IP or any E-mail Address which may have been provided.

This in itself makes the Whole System flawed from a Privacy, Data Protection Prospective 0r Fraud Prospective Angle!

This is irrespective of the Wire-tap imposed on the Customer, without due Consent of Law, where both parties need to consent or Proper Legal Process for any wrong-doing has been observed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Phorm &amp; FIPR this system leaks UID details when connected to a HTTPS/SSL Website, this enables any unscrupulous Website owner to gather the UID &amp; depending on the Website setup, link it to an individual IP or any E-mail Address which may have been provided.</p>
<p>This in itself makes the Whole System flawed from a Privacy, Data Protection Prospective 0r Fraud Prospective Angle!</p>
<p>This is irrespective of the Wire-tap imposed on the Customer, without due Consent of Law, where both parties need to consent or Proper Legal Process for any wrong-doing has been observed!</p>
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		<title>By: Analysis</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163618</link>
		<dc:creator>Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Analysis of the Phorm (Webwise) &#38; Nebuad systems, are not as Rosy as may at first be assumed!

If these systems, despite the Severe Privacy, Data Protection &#38; Fraud Issues, manage to get approval, they would appear to be a fairly short lived prospect.

I will elaborate.

First Commercial Websites, not wishing to be an OIX partner &#38; who wish to protect their advertising space will SSL Certificate their Websites.

Social Websites will inevitably  follow suit to also protect their clients confidentiality.

Private &#38; Business Websites will also follow suit to protect Copyright &#38; Trade Secret Issues.

Museums, Government Sites, Libraries, would also need to SSL in order to protect against Copyright Infringement.

Other Advertising Groups of course will not stand idly by &#38; will lobby for more stringent regulation &#38; at the same time alter their own systems to make them much more robust!

Security Groups will find ways to block or impede the gathering of such data, in the manner proposed!

As a result over a few years the ISP &#38; Phorm would then once again be in a poor business model Scenario!

Society would be the Main Loser, due to the Loss of the necessary, Privacy, Data Protection &#38; Fraud Laws which are at this time still in place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Analysis of the Phorm (Webwise) &amp; Nebuad systems, are not as Rosy as may at first be assumed!</p>
<p>If these systems, despite the Severe Privacy, Data Protection &amp; Fraud Issues, manage to get approval, they would appear to be a fairly short lived prospect.</p>
<p>I will elaborate.</p>
<p>First Commercial Websites, not wishing to be an OIX partner &amp; who wish to protect their advertising space will SSL Certificate their Websites.</p>
<p>Social Websites will inevitably  follow suit to also protect their clients confidentiality.</p>
<p>Private &amp; Business Websites will also follow suit to protect Copyright &amp; Trade Secret Issues.</p>
<p>Museums, Government Sites, Libraries, would also need to SSL in order to protect against Copyright Infringement.</p>
<p>Other Advertising Groups of course will not stand idly by &amp; will lobby for more stringent regulation &amp; at the same time alter their own systems to make them much more robust!</p>
<p>Security Groups will find ways to block or impede the gathering of such data, in the manner proposed!</p>
<p>As a result over a few years the ISP &amp; Phorm would then once again be in a poor business model Scenario!</p>
<p>Society would be the Main Loser, due to the Loss of the necessary, Privacy, Data Protection &amp; Fraud Laws which are at this time still in place!</p>
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		<title>By: VPN</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163614</link>
		<dc:creator>VPN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hype!!

http://www.capmarkets.com/ViewFile.asp?ID1=236930&#38;ID2=226023989&#38;ssid=2&#38;directory=9344&#38;bm=0&#38;filename=PHRM_230408.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hype!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.capmarkets.com/ViewFile.asp?ID1=236930&amp;ID2=226023989&amp;ssid=2&amp;directory=9344&amp;bm=0&amp;filename=PHRM_230408.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.capmarkets.com/ViewFile.asp?ID1=236930&amp;ID2=226023989&amp;ssid=2&amp;directory=9344&amp;bm=0&amp;filename=PHRM_230408.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: VPN</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163607</link>
		<dc:creator>VPN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just looking at the Graph for Phorm Share Dealing over the past year, given the Two Spikes, during the BT covert tests &#38; just before the announcement of possible deals, gives me a strong sense of Insider Trading!

I could be wrong but given their apparent track record???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looking at the Graph for Phorm Share Dealing over the past year, given the Two Spikes, during the BT covert tests &amp; just before the announcement of possible deals, gives me a strong sense of Insider Trading!</p>
<p>I could be wrong but given their apparent track record???</p>
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		<title>By: VPN</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163606</link>
		<dc:creator>VPN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another update to this Saga.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/24/home_office_phorm_fipr_bt/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another update to this Saga.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/24/home_office_phorm_fipr_bt/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/24/home_office_phorm_fipr_bt/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Pollard</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163602</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas Bohm and his colleagues deserve congratulation for the effort they have put into producing this paper to make their arguments clear, straightforward and comprehensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas Bohm and his colleagues deserve congratulation for the effort they have put into producing this paper to make their arguments clear, straightforward and comprehensible.</p>
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		<title>By: FIPR calls on Home Office to withdraw misleading advice on Phorm &#171; We can rebuild her.. but don&#8217;t spend a lot of money.</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/#comment-163600</link>
		<dc:creator>FIPR calls on Home Office to withdraw misleading advice on Phorm &#171; We can rebuild her.. but don&#8217;t spend a lot of money.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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