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	<description>Protecting your rights in the digital age</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163571</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are TWO Issues here, possible failure to protect your forum users personal data (which is important at the moment.

The Second is that potentially, as I mentioned above the Posts may as a result NOT come from me!

It is NOT an ill conceived idea to protect one's data, after all what is  the Fuss about with phorm, if it is not to protect both privacy &#38; data!

I stand by my Statement!

I have contributed to this debate, on this forum &#38; others, but I will not compromise either my Privacy or my Personal Data, or my Identity by possibly having others impersonate me!

A small piece of information, do not rely on the Windows Host File to block certain sites. Some of the Phorm techniques get round this in the same manner that blocking certain Microsoft Sites does not block the actual site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are TWO Issues here, possible failure to protect your forum users personal data (which is important at the moment.</p>
<p>The Second is that potentially, as I mentioned above the Posts may as a result NOT come from me!</p>
<p>It is NOT an ill conceived idea to protect one&#8217;s data, after all what is  the Fuss about with phorm, if it is not to protect both privacy &amp; data!</p>
<p>I stand by my Statement!</p>
<p>I have contributed to this debate, on this forum &amp; others, but I will not compromise either my Privacy or my Personal Data, or my Identity by possibly having others impersonate me!</p>
<p>A small piece of information, do not rely on the Windows Host File to block certain sites. Some of the Phorm techniques get round this in the same manner that blocking certain Microsoft Sites does not block the actual site!</p>
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		<title>By: Pasanonic</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163570</link>
		<dc:creator>Pasanonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to posts 16 &#38; 18.

What a rather obscure, off-topic an moot point you make here. What does it matter that cableforum do not use https for their signup page and login pages. Are you so naive as to input personal data on one of these pages?

Beyond your IP there is no need to place any personally identifiable data on any such page. You need a nickname, a password that you can remember or write on yor forehead and an email address that you can get access to for the purpose of returning a confirmation mail and there are hundreds of places offering web based mail services that you could use for such a purpose.
By all means don't join the debate at cableforum but do so on the grounds that you might find it difficult to comprehend rather than some ill- perceived security issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to posts 16 &amp; 18.</p>
<p>What a rather obscure, off-topic an moot point you make here. What does it matter that cableforum do not use https for their signup page and login pages. Are you so naive as to input personal data on one of these pages?</p>
<p>Beyond your IP there is no need to place any personally identifiable data on any such page. You need a nickname, a password that you can remember or write on yor forehead and an email address that you can get access to for the purpose of returning a confirmation mail and there are hundreds of places offering web based mail services that you could use for such a purpose.<br />
By all means don&#8217;t join the debate at cableforum but do so on the grounds that you might find it difficult to comprehend rather than some ill- perceived security issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Message</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163566</link>
		<dc:creator>Message</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not unduly concerned about posts I have written, they after all are meant to be read, however this is Not off topic this is about Phorm &#38; protecting the User!

Openrightsgroup.org DOES use HTTPS for it's signup form cable forum does NOT, BT keep trying to intercept  my communications on HTTP it's no longer secure from my ISP/Phorm etc.

Cable Forum are in effect asking me to enter details in an insecure way (before I can post), which would enable my ISP/Phorm to see such details &#38; therefore it is possible for phorm or my ISP to Post using my details &#38; also have access to another of my E-mail addresses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not unduly concerned about posts I have written, they after all are meant to be read, however this is Not off topic this is about Phorm &amp; protecting the User!</p>
<p>Openrightsgroup.org DOES use HTTPS for it&#8217;s signup form cable forum does NOT, BT keep trying to intercept  my communications on HTTP it&#8217;s no longer secure from my ISP/Phorm etc.</p>
<p>Cable Forum are in effect asking me to enter details in an insecure way (before I can post), which would enable my ISP/Phorm to see such details &amp; therefore it is possible for phorm or my ISP to Post using my details &amp; also have access to another of my E-mail addresses!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163563</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And equally this website is not https.  So we of Cable Forum fail to see the point you are trying to make.

However there is a contact form the cable forum site, so perhaps that question is better raised there.

But that is all rather Off Topic for this site surely ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And equally this website is not https.  So we of Cable Forum fail to see the point you are trying to make.</p>
<p>However there is a contact form the cable forum site, so perhaps that question is better raised there.</p>
<p>But that is all rather Off Topic for this site surely ?</p>
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		<title>By: Message</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163556</link>
		<dc:creator>Message</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Message to cableforum.co.uk

Since your Sign On Page is http &#38; not https &#38; I am a BT Customer, it would not be in keeping with my Security to Enter either a Sign in Name, PASSWORD or E-mail Address on your Site!

I am sure other potential posters, who may have useful information have also declined to join in your discussions for this very reason!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message to cableforum.co.uk</p>
<p>Since your Sign On Page is http &amp; not https &amp; I am a BT Customer, it would not be in keeping with my Security to Enter either a Sign in Name, PASSWORD or E-mail Address on your Site!</p>
<p>I am sure other potential posters, who may have useful information have also declined to join in your discussions for this very reason!</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163549</link>
		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments from Simon Davies,MD, 80/20 Thinking Ltd 
on the Cable Forum http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33631213-phorm-public-meeting-official-thread-page-2.html thread

perhaps you have a comment or two of your own....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments from Simon Davies,MD, 80/20 Thinking Ltd<br />
on the Cable Forum <a href="http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33631213-phorm-public-meeting-official-thread-page-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33631213-phorm-public-meeting-official-thread-page-2.html</a> thread</p>
<p>perhaps you have a comment or two of your own&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dynamo_ace</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163530</link>
		<dc:creator>Dynamo_ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David M:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Register#Tabloid_Journalism

Discussion on its crediabity as a Tabloidic site. And also i feel uncomftable with them after the spats with CC and Wikipedia.

Maybe it is the tech equivlment of privite eye?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David M:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Register#Tabloid_Journalism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Register#Tabloid_Journalism</a></p>
<p>Discussion on its crediabity as a Tabloidic site. And also i feel uncomftable with them after the spats with CC and Wikipedia.</p>
<p>Maybe it is the tech equivlment of privite eye?</p>
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		<title>By: Alert</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163529</link>
		<dc:creator>Alert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no direct evidence however, I am a BT Retail Customer.

I have been experiencing a severe latency problem from one of the sites I visit for a Couple of weeks on "HTTP!!!", which has been causing the Web Page to time out.
(The Server is probably reacting to an "attempted forged cookie")

I have not been experiencing the same problem either through a VPN Service or the same page which is being Served through HTTPS!

Until this morning, the Windows Safari Web browser was "not" having trouble connecting to this site, however the Saafari Web Browser is now also experiencing the same affect when using HTTP port 80. (still as before connects via HTTPS or VPN).

Although I cannot prove this is anything to do with the BT Phorm network, given the current situation it is a candidate for investigation, hence my Earlier warning!

I would rather not wait this time given the illegal tests in 2006-2007, to warn other's of the possible change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no direct evidence however, I am a BT Retail Customer.</p>
<p>I have been experiencing a severe latency problem from one of the sites I visit for a Couple of weeks on &#8220;HTTP!!!&#8221;, which has been causing the Web Page to time out.<br />
(The Server is probably reacting to an &#8220;attempted forged cookie&#8221;)</p>
<p>I have not been experiencing the same problem either through a VPN Service or the same page which is being Served through HTTPS!</p>
<p>Until this morning, the Windows Safari Web browser was &#8220;not&#8221; having trouble connecting to this site, however the Saafari Web Browser is now also experiencing the same affect when using HTTP port 80. (still as before connects via HTTPS or VPN).</p>
<p>Although I cannot prove this is anything to do with the BT Phorm network, given the current situation it is a candidate for investigation, hence my Earlier warning!</p>
<p>I would rather not wait this time given the illegal tests in 2006-2007, to warn other&#8217;s of the possible change.</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163524</link>
		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reference URL(s) please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reference URL(s) please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alert</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/04/phorm-analysis-out/#comment-163521</link>
		<dc:creator>Alert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phorm are “NOW” attempting to use/divert the Cookie responses on the Safari Web Browser!

I at present do not know how successful this is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phorm are “NOW” attempting to use/divert the Cookie responses on the Safari Web Browser!</p>
<p>I at present do not know how successful this is!</p>
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