Comments on: Trustguide and ID Cards http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2006/11/12/trustguide-and-id-cards/ Protecting your rights in the digital age Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:40:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Simon Hill http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2006/11/12/trustguide-and-id-cards/#comment-39913 Simon Hill Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:38:21 +0000 http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2006/11/12/trustguide-and-id-cards/#comment-39913 i am a head of sixth form with responsibilities for post-16 citizenship (within a four school consortium)in east northamptonshire and we are currently organising a y12 conference on thursday 12th july 2007 at northampton guidhall for approximately 200 students on the theme of 'freedom'. i am contacting you to enquire whether you have a schools liaison officer or someone able to lead two one hour workshops on ID cards and the impact this has on individual rights and freedoms for approximately 50 students in the morning...there is also a 'question time' plenary in the afternoon (ending by 3pm)...we are also looking for a 'key-note speaker' to kick the whole day off at 10am thank you simon hill 01933 623921 i am a head of sixth form with responsibilities for post-16 citizenship (within a four school consortium)in east northamptonshire and we are currently organising a y12 conference on thursday 12th july 2007 at northampton guidhall for approximately 200 students on the theme of ‘freedom’. i am contacting you to enquire whether you have a schools liaison officer or someone able to lead two one hour workshops on ID cards and the impact this has on individual rights and freedoms for approximately 50 students in the morning…there is also a ‘question time’ plenary in the afternoon (ending by 3pm)…we are also looking for a ‘key-note speaker’ to kick the whole day off at 10am

thank you

simon hill
01933 623921

]]> By: Peter http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2006/11/12/trustguide-and-id-cards/#comment-9577 Peter Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:59:36 +0000 http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2006/11/12/trustguide-and-id-cards/#comment-9577 The idea that technology will stop the terrorists is absurd in the extreme I have no fundamental objection to a form of ID like the driver photo licence but the ID cards hold too much data that can be put to the wrong use. No computer program yet has been written that is 100% bug free or 100% secure, any code that can be created can be broken after all it has to be read by the system, and it is just a matter of how much time and effort someone is prepared to put into the breaking of it outside the system in the first place. If we checked everyone in and out of points of entry to the UK now it would be more secure but we don't so what makes an ID card more effective. Computers are not perfect, what happens if it says you are not legitimate. How are the innocent going to prove that the database is wrong when the data it’s self is your ID. Errors do occur more frequently than many would like to believe. The database will become so huge that I doubt that the technology will cope with the shear volumes of data created. We are already seeing government IT systems that can not cope and are simply failing to fulfil their function after many millions if not billions of tax payers money has been spent. No I do not feel more secure just more like a prisoner in my own country our society is no longer free to free thinking honest people. The idea that technology will stop the terrorists is absurd in the extreme I have no fundamental objection to a form of ID like the driver photo licence but the ID cards hold too much data that can be put to the wrong use.

No computer program yet has been written that is 100% bug free or 100% secure, any code that can be created can be broken after all it has to be read by the system, and it is just a matter of how much time and effort someone is prepared to put into the breaking of it outside the system in the first place.

If we checked everyone in and out of points of entry to the UK now it would be more secure but we don’t so what makes an ID card more effective.

Computers are not perfect, what happens if it says you are not legitimate. How are the innocent going to prove that the database is wrong when the data it’s self is your ID.

Errors do occur more frequently than many would like to believe.

The database will become so huge that I doubt that the technology will cope with the shear volumes of data created. We are already seeing government IT systems that can not cope and are simply failing to fulfil their function after many millions if not billions of tax payers money has been spent.

No I do not feel more secure just more like a prisoner in my own country our society is no longer free to free thinking honest people.

]]> By: Mark Beveridge » Trustguide : UK civilians on ‘cyber trust’ http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2006/11/12/trustguide-and-id-cards/#comment-8989 Mark Beveridge » Trustguide : UK civilians on ‘cyber trust’ Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:58:32 +0000 http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2006/11/12/trustguide-and-id-cards/#comment-8989 [...] The Open Rights Group discusses the 101 page Trustguide report on ‘our’ “views, beliefs and needs regarding trust, security and privacy in relation to new technologies”. It was based on 29 workshops in the South West, Wales and London, hosted by HP and BT, in conjunction with the DTI. [...] [...] The Open Rights Group discusses the 101 page Trustguide report on ‘our’ “views, beliefs and needs regarding trust, security and privacy in relation to new technologies”. It was based on 29 workshops in the South West, Wales and London, hosted by HP and BT, in conjunction with the DTI. [...]

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