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	<title>Comments on: APIG DRM Inquiry: Overview</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2005/12/02/apig-drm-inquiry-overview/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to address the APIG questions on DRM, I need to state some principles.

Firstly, the Church-Turing thesis, one of the basic tenets of Computer Science,  which states that any general purpose computing device can solve the same problems as any other. The practical consequences of this are key - it means that a computer can emulate any other computer, so a program has no way of knowing what it is really running on. This is not theory, but something we all use every day, whether it is Java virtual machines, or Pentium's emulating older CPU's for software compatibility.

How does this apply to DRM? It means that any protection can be removed. For a concrete example, consider MAME - the Multi Arcade Machine Emulator - which will run almost any video game from the last 30 years. It's hard to imagine a more complete DRM solution than custom hardware with a coin slot on the front, yet in MAME you just have to press the 5 key to tell it you have paid.

The second principle is the core one of jurisprudence - that due process is a requirement before punishment. I know the Prime Minister has defended devolving summary justice to police constables, but the DRM proponents want to devolve it to computers. The fine details of copyright law have been debated and redefined for centuries, yet the DRM advocates assert that the same computers you wouldn't trust to check your grammar can somehow substitute for the entire legal system in determining and enforcing copyright law. 

Each computers' immanent ability to become any kind of machine and the copying of data that happens as part of this, leads the DRM advocates naturally to the point where they want to outlaw computers, or to take them over by stealth, using virus-like techniques.

The reductio ad absurdum of this is to privilege DRM implementers in law above the owners of the computers on which their software runs, without their effective consent. Sadly, this is exactly what is being demanded by the publishers' lobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to address the APIG questions on DRM, I need to state some principles.</p>
<p>Firstly, the Church-Turing thesis, one of the basic tenets of Computer Science,  which states that any general purpose computing device can solve the same problems as any other. The practical consequences of this are key - it means that a computer can emulate any other computer, so a program has no way of knowing what it is really running on. This is not theory, but something we all use every day, whether it is Java virtual machines, or Pentium&#8217;s emulating older CPU&#8217;s for software compatibility.</p>
<p>How does this apply to DRM? It means that any protection can be removed. For a concrete example, consider MAME - the Multi Arcade Machine Emulator - which will run almost any video game from the last 30 years. It&#8217;s hard to imagine a more complete DRM solution than custom hardware with a coin slot on the front, yet in MAME you just have to press the 5 key to tell it you have paid.</p>
<p>The second principle is the core one of jurisprudence - that due process is a requirement before punishment. I know the Prime Minister has defended devolving summary justice to police constables, but the DRM proponents want to devolve it to computers. The fine details of copyright law have been debated and redefined for centuries, yet the DRM advocates assert that the same computers you wouldn&#8217;t trust to check your grammar can somehow substitute for the entire legal system in determining and enforcing copyright law. </p>
<p>Each computers&#8217; immanent ability to become any kind of machine and the copying of data that happens as part of this, leads the DRM advocates naturally to the point where they want to outlaw computers, or to take them over by stealth, using virus-like techniques.</p>
<p>The reductio ad absurdum of this is to privilege DRM implementers in law above the owners of the computers on which their software runs, without their effective consent. Sadly, this is exactly what is being demanded by the publishers&#8217; lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2005/12/02/apig-drm-inquiry-overview/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So has ORG started a submission? Perhaps some sort of Wiki / collaborative writing page that people can contribute and edit versions of written submissions would be a good idea? Anyway, classic civil servant trick to ask for input at the Christmas period so no fucker can submit anything or knows anything about it! 21st December is a crap time frame to be able to submit anything by...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So has ORG started a submission? Perhaps some sort of Wiki / collaborative writing page that people can contribute and edit versions of written submissions would be a good idea? Anyway, classic civil servant trick to ask for input at the Christmas period so no fucker can submit anything or knows anything about it! 21st December is a crap time frame to be able to submit anything by&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Gibbs</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2005/12/02/apig-drm-inquiry-overview/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pleasantly surprised to see the above was sucessfully posted using Firefox 1.5. Thanks for fixing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pleasantly surprised to see the above was sucessfully posted using Firefox 1.5. Thanks for fixing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Gibbs</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2005/12/02/apig-drm-inquiry-overview/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic? Not sure, I'll let the Group decide:

John Kell, political researcher from the Professional Contractors Group, uttered:

"One thing that we know will be announced in the PBR this afternoon is a review of intellectual property in the UK. There's no particular reason to think that this will do anything like introduce software patents in UK law, but we will make a submission to argue against it anyway, just to be sure."

and linked here: 

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/independent_reviews/gowers_review_intellectual_property/gowersreview_index.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic? Not sure, I&#8217;ll let the Group decide:</p>
<p>John Kell, political researcher from the Professional Contractors Group, uttered:</p>
<p>&#8220;One thing that we know will be announced in the PBR this afternoon is a review of intellectual property in the UK. There&#8217;s no particular reason to think that this will do anything like introduce software patents in UK law, but we will make a submission to argue against it anyway, just to be sure.&#8221;</p>
<p>and linked here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/independent_reviews/gowers_review_intellectual_property/gowersreview_index.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/independent_reviews/gowers_review_intellectual_property/gowersreview_index.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Kelso</title>
		<link>http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2005/12/02/apig-drm-inquiry-overview/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kelso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting story about DRM provider SunnComm

http://p2pnet.net/story/7201</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting story about DRM provider SunnComm</p>
<p><a href="http://p2pnet.net/story/7201" rel="nofollow">http://p2pnet.net/story/7201</a></p>
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